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PostSubject: Re: 1.9 comp rules   Sun 16 Dec 2007, 14:39

I am going to use Rene as an example. Simply because he has thick skin and he can take it.

Rene brought a truck to the Augusta scale comp last year. It is the same comp truck that he ran most of 2007. He bolted on some scale items. And ran it in the 2.2 scale class. He wasn't the only one, just using him for an example. But anyhow he kicked butt with it. But I think it was a unfair advantage over the true "scale trucks".

Was Rene wrong? No I don't think he was. Simply because his truck fell into the scale rules for the event. I think the problem was with the rules. There was noting saying he couldn't run something like that.

That is why I think it is important to look at our scale class rules carefully.

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PostSubject: Re: 1.9 comp rules   Sun 16 Dec 2007, 15:03

just run wht you bring or dont bring. i dont know if i will have anything to run soon of not if at all.
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PostSubject: Re: 1.9 comp rules   Sun 16 Dec 2007, 15:09

HAHA.

Thanks Brandon. LOL.

In my defense, I did also put the battery pack onto the frame.

Brandon is right (again). The rules need to be clear so that everyone has equal opportunity to build the best possible vehicle to suit those rules.

We can run a scale class (which was not what we did in Nov), which would in no way be a competitive class. It would be entertainment and I think that this can run at GTG. There is no need to keep score or have events if you want to drive around and have your friends truck pull you out every time you get stuck etc...

Or we can have a 1.9 comp class, where the rules could include some scale features, like appropriate wheelbase and width to body.

Tony is also right, and this is the reason that there are no official scale rules. What I think is scale may be a very different thing from what someone else thinks is scale.


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PostSubject: Re: 1.9 comp rules   Sun 16 Dec 2007, 15:19

'04 Rubicon wrote:
Hey guys. I apologize if I shouldn't post as I am not a full member but why not just start with the rules found here for 1.9 - http://www.scale4x4rc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9792 and adapting to what the club wants. These rules appear to be the rules for a couple other clubs. And I'm sure you are all familiar with these but it may help eliminate confusion to use these as a foundation. I hope to attend a few more of the comps you guys host and look forward to running a 1.9, and I stick to these rules the best I can.

Sorry again if I shouldn't have posted, and for all I know you may already be using these rules, I just didn't see it posted in this thread.

THANK YOU Mark.

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PostSubject: Re: 1.9 comp rules   Mon 17 Dec 2007, 00:22

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THANK YOU Mark.

No problem, just trying to help out.

I know this whole 1.9 thing is new to some people and there are no official usrcca rules mainly because RCC will not adopt 1.9's for nats. I actually talked to Jason from RCC about it yesterday at the GTG for Zach, and it seems they just don't want them at nats. Part of the reason is exactly the issue being argued here, defining a clear cut set of rules as to what is 'scale'. Plus, many say they are not true 'rock crawlers' and more for trail due to how they are setup, basically they are not built to be as capable as true crawlers. Anyway, I love my 1.9 and will continue to build them, they are fun to drive because they can't just go anywhere you point them, and I like trailing too. Maybe one day, after a petition Smile , we can talk them into having them at nats.

I would like to add another comment, refering to how the comps should be run on a given day. Someone here said it before, I believe the 2.2's and Supers should run at the same place on the same day (with points). And if there is time, the 1.9's would run last (with or without points). I only say this because I think this club once to send someone to nats for those two classes, which are the only ones at nats. This way seems most fair, to ensure the necessary classes for nationals run, and the runs would be seen by all members. If you all have a ton of 1.9's, you may consider having those on seperate days, but as the days get longer with spring and summer, and running multiple courses like was done at the November 11th comp, it should be doable, just maybe not three courses for the 1.9's like we did.

Sorry if I'm speaking out of place here, like I said, just trying to help.
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PostSubject: Re: 1.9 comp rules   Tue 01 Jan 2008, 23:34

I know this might be beating a dead horse but could this not just be simplified to no more than a certin degree of articulation lets say like no more than 20% and run 1.9 wheels and tires 4linked or leafs and solid axels or IFS, hard body NOT CUT or a lexan body NOT CUT?????

I go muddin all the time in my 79 bronco and have seen many and many of trail trucks there not hardcore anything> there just needing something stronger so it wont break. look at it like this a jeep yj or tj changin out a stock rearend for a ford 9inch and the fj crusier could do the same with the front and put in a solid axel and still be sitting stock and and act in the same it would just have a solid axel Right????
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PostSubject: Re: 1.9 comp rules   Wed 02 Jan 2008, 00:02

Rockrollin wrote:
I know this might be beating a dead horse but could this not just be simplified to no more than a certin degree of articulation lets say like no more than 20% and run 1.9 wheels and tires 4linked or leafs and solid axels or IFS, hard body NOT CUT or a lexan body NOT CUT?????

i tried that angle already. thats what the mini RTI ramp was for. didnt seem to be much enthusiasm for this idea. preciate the support though!
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PostSubject: Re: 1.9 comp rules   Fri 18 Jan 2008, 22:22

my 2 cents is that ur run leafs on all 4 corners.. i dont see to many real trucks runnin a 4 link set up on the streets atleast not where i have ever lived.. no cut bodys 1.9 rim and rubber.. just my 2 cents thanks marcus
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PostSubject: Re: 1.9 comp rules   Fri 18 Jan 2008, 22:57

hey Marcus

Neither one of my 1:1s has leaf springs.

Run 1.9s for fun and at GTG and then run whatever you want, problem solved.
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PostSubject: Re: 1.9 comp rules   Fri 18 Jan 2008, 23:16

works for me i really dont care lol i just want to have some fun anyways.. im trying to build a comp rig now to be competitive im alittle new at this and play around in my back yard ive built a couple crawlers and started out with the nylant havent never been to a comp.. im a dirt oval guy thats messing with crawlers now lol... have tryed to make it to the last two crr have had... goin to try to get to the one next week.. Tony tells me i will have a good time and that the members of crr will help out anyway they can... would like to become a member mayb.. sorry this got off topic marcus
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PostSubject: Re: 1.9 comp rules   Sun 20 Jan 2008, 14:40

lowridinjuggalo wrote:
sorry this got off topic marcus

not like this thread was going anywhere. this club is a couple years behnd 1.9, it will be awhile before this topic really becomes relevant to CRR. Sounds like we're going to stick with 2.2 until we have more of a footing in the crawling community.

Maybe Diggers Dungeon will jumpstart that process but that remains to be seen.
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PostSubject: Re: 1.9 comp rules   Mon 21 Jan 2008, 02:21

ok thats cool if nothin else i would like to come out and see how a comp works been reading up on the rules and how they are scored and all... have wacthed a few on youtube.com ima try and make it out to diggers dungeon its so fair from me.. im in andrews nc almost to tn.... and diggers is all the way on the coast... my emaxx is goin back to put a brusless system in it to try and run there to mayb lol.., i just like to run with other folks besides myself it gets borring after awile.. hopefully diggers will help crr out a hole lot with getin more people ivolved in the crawleing community.. again sorry bout bein off topic marcus
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PostSubject: Re: 1.9 comp rules   Mon 21 Jan 2008, 14:34

yeah, dont be sorry, might as well turn this thread into an open topic discusion.

bring your 1.9, im sure there will be more there to run with. i live a few minutes from Miller park so i will probably drop in sometime to see how things are goin, maybe we can do a 1.9 trail run after the comp.
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PostSubject: Re: 1.9 comp rules   Mon 21 Jan 2008, 21:28

ok thats cool ill bring it... i want to have my 2.2 done by then but im perty sure it want be... marcus
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